CITY OF OVERBROOK

 

 

MINUTES                    SPECIAL MEETING                           NOVEMBER 20, 2007

 

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:                        Dorthy Chikly, Don Schultz, Bob Sisson, Tadd Goodyear,Mayor Jack Young.    Larry Coursen absent.

 

OTHERS PRESENT:                Phil & Kathy McAnulty, Carol Bloodworth, Bev Hix, Eula Lee

                                                Fuller, Michael & Jenna Blood, Vic Robbins, Jon Brady, Ed

 

                                                Harmison, Everette Dannar, Bob Call, Cheryl Brown.

 

            Mayor Young called the special meeting to order at 7:30 PM.  After roll was called, he stated that this meeting falls under the rules of a special meeting and ONLY the items listed on the agenda will be subject to action by the council.  The mayor stated that while other business could be discussed, he was not in favor of discussing matters that can’t be acted upon.

Mayor Young asked that everyone present be given a copy of the agenda.

 

 

MINUTES / WARRANTS:       Bob Sisson made a motion, seconded by Don Schultz, to approve the minutes of the October 10, 2007 regular meeting as written.  Motion carried 4-0.

            Tadd Goodyear moved to pay all warrants.  Bob Sisson seconded; motion carried 4-0.

 

 

McANULTY SEWER ISSUES:                        Mayor Young explained that he and Vic Robbins had met with Carol Bloodworth the previous week, and had discussed the possibility of lifting manholes downstream because of the large amount of water present when the lift station kicked on.  Vic Robbins is to meet with Bob Call to schedule this.  How to simulate the same amount of water was discussed.  Tadd Goodyear asked if it’s been determined that the problem is not due to a perimeter drain emptying into the sewer.  Phil McAnulty assured them that the perimeter drains are not at fault.  The mayor said that it sounds to him like that the sewer line is not handling the flow coming from the lift station.  Carol Bloodworth stated that she thinks the main piping is too small.  Mayor Young said that no one knows for sure what the problem is at this time.   Bob Sisson asked if a check valve had ever been installed.  Contacting the builder, Glen Norton was discussed.   The mayor said that he would recommend installing one, but wasn’t sure that sould solve the existing problem.  Kathy McAnulty said that installing a check valve would only limit the water usage by the occupants and they hadn’t needed one for the past 50 years.  Phil McAulty made the statement that he has witnesses that it’s not a perimeter drain problem as he’s had plumbers there in the past.  Dorthy Chikly said that installing a check valve would reduce further damage until the problem is fixed.   Vic Robbins asked if their line has ever been inspected with a camera.  He then said that without that being done, no one could be sure that the perimeter drains were not emptying into the sewer.  Bloodworth stated that the house predates the city’s sewer system being installed.   The mayor said that the lines surrounding the property have been inspected by camera at the city’s expense recently.  Vic Robbins explained which sewer lines had been cleaned and/or replaced during the sewer project.  Don Schultz asked about the possibility of adding a line to relieve the flow, after investigation.  Robbins said that doing some elevations and calculations might be as effective as dumping water into the lift stations.  Bloodworth stated that the real problem is the amount of grey/clean water going into the system and the city needs to eliminate that problem.  Mayor Young said that his immediate goal is to find out if there’s a blockage or if the line is too small.  Don Schultz said that if his understanding is correct, there had been a problem 2 years ago and the council recommended at that time installing a check valve as well as a sump pump.  McAnulty said that he has clarified that situation at 2 previous meetings as involving a blockage in their service line and they had G & G Excavation clean the line.  Vic Robbins made the comment that any check valve that might have been previously installed would most likely be destroyed when the service line was roto-rootered.   Vic Robbins said the only time water usage would be limited due to a check valve would be when the lift station is running, and if it’s cycling normal household usage shouldn’t be a problem. 

            McAnulty said that they’d never had any sewer back-up’s from 1998 until recently.  He then asked that a letter he wrote to the council be included in the minutes of this meeting.  So noted.  He then proceeded to read the letter. 

            The mayor has been informed by the current occupant, Rob Molt, that there is some urgency to fix the problem as he is trying to buy the house.   McAnulty stated that he is reluctant to have a check valve installed until he knows exactly where his service connection hooks into the city sewer.  Since he’s now 99% sure of that, he’s going to try to find someone to install a check valve.  He then stated that he would never accept that as a permanent solution to the problem, and that he will be back every time it happens until it’s fixed.  Dorthy Chikly commented that if the city makes the effort to solve the problem, and the property owner makes the effort to install a check valve then both parties will be working towards a common goal.  The mayor stated that the problem needs to be determined before solutions can be done.  Robbins said that shutting off the lift station might be easier that forcing water into the manholes. 

            Mayor Young then asked if McAnulty wanted this done before a check valve is installed.  McAnulty said he would have this done as soon as possible, but wasn’t sure who is available.  The idea of using city personnel and equipment was discussed.   Don Schultz  moved that the city dig the hole and that at the time we do the testing, the owner supply a check valve to be installed at that time as part of the test.  Tadd Goodyear seconded; motion carried 4-0.  Bob Call said he’d get the check valve.

 

 

AGREEMENT WITH GEORGE MAICHEL/PASTURE METER:         Dorthy Chikly said she’d been contacted about a water bill received by Dr. Maichel’s daughter for water usage at his pasture meter.  The clerk explained that this was actually the second bill sent within the past year, but the first bill had been dismissed at Dr. Maichel’s daughter’s request as there was no usage.  When Jim Koger, who reads the meters, reported 23,500 gallons of usage recently, a bill was sent to Dr. Maichel.  Apparently the meter had been turned on by someone other than city personnel.  According to Bruce Smith, who worked for the city and installed the meter, Dr. Maichel paid to have the meter installed and also for all the usage up until the last billing in 1992.  The clerk then showed the council the billing ledger to verify this.  Mayor Young said that any agreements between the Maichel family and those renting the pasture were not the city’s concern, but that Michael Coffman has been contacted about a request to furnish water to the Maichel family as long as they are alive.  Don Schultz was concerned that Dr. Maichel’s daughter might not be aware of the agreements.  The mayor and the clerk both assured him that she’s received copies of all the agreements and water usage reports for as long as the state has required the records be kept. 

            Jon Brady, who works for KDHE, had concerns about the use of untreated water.  The clerk said her main concern is that an unauthorized person has turned the water on without permission.    The mayor said that the matter will be discussed in more detail at the next meeting.

 

ORDINANCE TO REGULATE ATV’S, ETC:      Dorthy Chikly had a question about some of the wording regarding “STO’S” used in the proposed ordinance.  STO stands for “Standard Traffic Ordinance” which the city adopted by reference.   After discussion, Dorthy Chikly moved to adopt Ordinance No. 304 that would regulate the use of All Terrain Vehicles, Golf Carts and WorkSite Utility vehicles within the city limits.  Bob Sisson seconded; motion carried 4-0.  This will be effective after publication in the paper.

 

 

BID TO PAINT 2001 PATROLCAR:       Chief Ed Harmison presented several bids.  After discussion, Bob Sisson moved to accept the bid from Jagger Swisher for $602.51.  Tadd Goodyear seconded; motion carried 4-0.

 

 

REVERSE DECISION TO KEEP 2005 PATROLCAR IN TOWN:    Don Schultz presented a letter to the council from a local business man, Richard Wright.  Wright had called the sheriff’s office when someone came into his Overbrook office asking for money when Wright was in Lawrence.  Wright was told the County Sheriff didn’t have an officer available and the call went to Dannar, who was off duty.   Wright felt that the response time was “not good, and was told that one of the reasons was that Dannar had to load up his personal vehicle, go to the police department, and change vehicles.”   Schultz then recommended that the decision to keep Dannar’s car in town be reversed.  He also stated recent vandalism to the car while it was parked in front of the police department as a concern.  Chief Harmison mentioned his concern about both cars being more visible when both officers are off duty.   Schultz also pointed out that it would take Dannar longer to respond to emergency calls when there’s snow or ice.   

            Mayor Young said he’s concerned about the fact that there was no county officer available when one was needed.  He feels that the sheriff has no problem using a city officer when necessary, but may not be willing to reciprocate.  Chief Harmison said that county officers had responded to 2 calls recently.   At this point, Don Schultz made a motion, seconded by Dorthy Chikly, to reverse the decision to keep Officer Dannar’s car in town.  Bob Sisson said that he’s received numerous positive comments from citizens about keeping the car in town.  The mayor said he wants the council to vote the way they really feel as there’s been too many changes in votes lately.   Dorthy Chikly apologized to the mayor for this, and stated that she had made her earlier decision too hastily.  The police chief said he had heard only negative comments regarding where the car is being parked.   At that time, the mayor asked for the vote.  The vote was 2-2.  Mayor Young voted to keep the car in town until the next meeting.  He also stated that the matter will undoubtedly be brought up again.

 

 

HOLIDAY HOURS:      Cheryl Brown told the council that Jim Koger will be working the Friday after Thanksgiving this year, but would like to close City Hall for either a half day or all day December 24th.     Tadd Goodyear moved that City Hall be closed on December 24th with the clerk’s taking either vacation or personal days.  Dorthy Chikly asked about December 31st.  Brown said she would be working that day to close out the year.  Bob Sisson seconded; motion carried 4-0.

 

 

CONCERNS ABOUT REMAININD AGENDA:          Don Schultz voiced his concerns about the business being left until the December meeting.  He again stated that the council should have the minutes and an agenda at least 10 days before the meetings.  This would allow the agenda to be published the week before the meeting, and allow the public to see what’s going to be discussed at the meeting.  He also stated that having the minutes and department reports at that time would help the council conduct city business more efficiently.  This will be discussed at the December meeting in more detail.

 

 

CITIZEN COMMENTS:           Jon Brady commented that he didn’t care where the police car is parked, but he’s concerned about response time by the sheriff, and how can we protect anything if cars aren’t safe parked at City Hall?

 

            Vic Robbins wanted to address Mr. McAnulty’s comments in his letter about the lagoons.  The city has been receiving favorable test results for some time.

 

            Michael Blood asked that there would be more consistency in who is allowed to make public comments and when.   Mayor Young said that from now on, all public comments will be held until the end of the meeting.  He thinks that’s the only way to be fair and keep things focused during the meetings.

 

 

Bob Sisson moved to adjourn; Dorthy Chikly seconded.  Meeting was adjourned at 9:10 PM.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                        Respectfully,

 

 

 

                                                                        Cheryl L. Brown

                                                                        City Clerk

 

 

 

APPROVED:12/12/2007